My Beef with Songpop2 2

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    Brandiereed33

    Well said. In addition to your complaints....when we win tickets or earn them by watching the video, the tickets NEVER post. And when they do post the tournament you were initially playing has ended! So frustrating!

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    Gary

    Hi Magpira, you have raised a lot of issues there however most of them are not new issues.  As you say you've been playing for what 3 months?  I'd like to just raise one issue with you please.  A lot of us have been playing for years, we use powerups as they are a feature of the game, not some hack or "cheat" which is unauthorized.  If you want help or to make friends don't start by calling everyone cheats.

     

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    Magpira

    Hi Gary, well... as you say "I've been here what?  All of 3 months?" LOL... Patronise much?

    Well I didn't mean to hit a nerve there,  but i will stand by my beliefs that constantly using boosters, for every single game, is cheating in my eyes.  Like i said, half these ppl are below average and only seem knowledgeable because of the use of boosters and 50/50 power ups.

    I am not here to make friends, I am here to challenge myself but my beef is that I cannot legitimately challenge myself without spending loads of money (which i don't have) and there is no point in even entering tournaments unless you have adequate booster tokens to accompany the overpriced ticket pack you just purchased.  Be realistic for goodness sakes..

    OH and F.Y.I.. This place is full of disgruntled people who are tired of the same old cashed up fools hogging all the tournaments... I got warned about it before seeing it for myself... SO the cheat tag has been on these individuals looooooong before I ever came along.

     

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    Gcdianagail

    Right on Magpira! So happy to hear someone else speak up against the badge hogging, rich folks. I have it right on my profile page..I don't buy my wins with power ups! It's a disgrace that SongPop has a feature that is clearly a cheat and allows people to buy their win! Thank you!

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    Kgbpoison

    Very well said. I don't think they pay attention to our posts either. Rarely see updates. 

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    Gary

    Hi look I think your missing the point that the game is designed and hosted by a company that wishes to make money out of it, just like almost every product produced by any other company.  It's not a charity.  If they can't make money out of the players who are happy to pay, then they wouldn't be able to host people like us (yes, me too) to play it for free.  The purpose of powerups is primarily to get people spending money to buy them and the reward for that is you get an advantage.  The feature has been there since the start and is available to anyone who wants to use it.  The great thing about powerups is players who are not that good at it, have a way they can compete at higher levels and keep them interested.  The bad thing is that the game is not completely skill based.  When you play the normal game, it's impossible to tell if someone has used a powerup to reduce their choices, so its not valid to claim they are cheating by using them as you don't know.  In party mode you can boost your score with powerups and it is obvious to other players who know what to look for when its happening.  Most people use powerups in party mode and its vitually impossible to win without them.  In case you haven't done it, a correct guess in party with boost can give you a lot more than 100 points.  A correct guess without boost is 100 points max.  I lost my first serious attempt at winning a party even though I had a score of 320,000.  The reason I lost was I ran out of powerups and the competition didn't.  Unfair? Yes it was, but that's how the game works and you learn from it and have another go with a lot more powerups up your sleeve next time.  Powerups are there to stay, they wont remove them as they make money out of them, so get used to it.  Its normal for any competitive player to get disillusioned when they discover the game is not entirely skill based.  But the only time I believe I've called "cheat", is when people where using unauthorized methods or very dirty tactics to beat me.  

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    Magpira

    Hi Gary,

    Cheers for the response and explanation, it's very much appreciated.

    I totally understand that the concept of a business is to make money, but this is extreme.  If they lowered their prices, had more 1/2 price sales, had weekly ticket giveaways or awarded more power ups for things like getting all 10 correct or whatever, they would make a hell of a lot more money than they are currently as it would appeal cuz its more affordable therefore more peole would make purchases..  Less is more kinda thing.

    I understand the concept of boosters and am fine if they stay but it really is an unfair advantage that only rewards people with money to spend.  At least they get some money out of me as i do purchase ticket packs, so I believe you should be rewarded if you spend money period... not only if you spend the max amount and also purchase power ups. I mean the fact that i have to use a coin to scan my own playlists is absurd considering i paid for them in the first place!

    I was playing a tourney the other night and was a fair bit ahead, but only using tickets, then someone came in and started catching me, using power ups of course, and in the end i gave up and left because i was just wasting tickets and was never gonna beat him because of them.  My main beef with the booster is how much ppl pass you by and even worse, that they push you down in process, which is totally unfair when you're answering every question correctly and the power up user is not.  You totally should be rewarded in some way if you ace a list, regardless of whether you have power ups or not is my belief.  Like I said previously, zero player incentive.  Other game apps I use that you need to pay for, always reward you for spending and give you decent payouts when you win, it's worth you're while to spend and keep spending if that is the case.  I just think they should offer more rewards for the player, just make it worth it, not 50 tix and some ridiculous badge, I just figured out you need to merge your badges, and shock horror, at a cost!  Another stupid charge just to merge badges you earned and paid for initially.

    I am a competitive person, that's why i love this app but I can't afford to be competitive at those prices.  Why not have seperate tournaments or at least one for just ticket users, that would be fairer for those of us who can only afford ticket packages and we deserve rewards too as tickets are a paid purchase too.

    Anyway I also worked out it's easier to delete challenges from my mobile rather than my laptop, so I'm all good now!

     

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    Gary

    Would be great if they had "ticket only" party but it wouldn't be foolproof either.  You could sit there for 24 hrs solid with a pile of tickets and still beat someone who's better than you.  It would take people away from the normal party though, where you need powerups, that would cost SongPop profit margin and so unlikely to happen.

    Are you aware that in party mode you are always playing a computer simulation "bot" and never a real person?  A "bot" that has the sole purpose of pushing you to spend money!  Are you also aware you probably have a few "bots" as regular players?

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    Magpira

    NO?!?!  Really? 😱  that doesn't surprise me actually now I think about it.

    Yes I get your point on ticket only challenges but if you are spending money purchasing ticket packages then you should be rewarded, and to save up enough tickets to play for 24 hrs by watching the vids would take far too long and do my head in.  That way with a ticket only comp, they could actually seriously rank us and hold comps head to head etc...  It would be cool.

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    Gary

    Yes sorry to inform you but your playing a very well disguised international slot machine with no checks or balances.  Please don't spend money on it if you can't afford it.  I have never spent a cent on it as I recognized what it was early on.

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    Magpira

    Cheers for the heads up, I wasn't aware of that.  I'll definately remember that 👍🏻

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    Gary

    "You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes."   You have chosen wisely Magpira.

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    Juler05

    My biggest beef is  "How can a player beat me when they they take longer on a quiz than I. For example, on a recent quiz with this fellow Andrew--He took 10.6 secs to complete the quiz, I took 9.5 and yet we tied. and I have complained about this many times--placement does not matter-its happens no matter where the winning answers or losing answers are. Can you do anything about this, or is this a handicap you give to players who don't do as well? I have been playing for at least 8 years. Please let me know--I am so tired of losing a game when I had a better time,many times by quite a bit--and like I said I know I had heard when it is the last song you get extra points etc... but no matter the placement on the many quizzes this has happened on, I end up getting a better score and losing anyway-why????. I really feel I'm being punished for winning all my games--not bragging--I really love music and I want to get credit for it..SP has failed to give me an answer. They just blow me off. Has anyone had this happen to them--please let me know--This is the only game I play, I don't want to have to stop.Plus I am paid through the year with VIP -so don't want to lose that money.

    Thank you,

    Julie Robinson

     

     

     

    Julie Robinson -".

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    Gary

    Hi Julie please look at post I have just put up about "scoring".  To answer your question you need to understand how it works and unfortunately its a little tricky.  Its also not explained anywhere so I'm going to post it as people should be familiar with this.  Basically your getting beat because your probably quicker on the first 4 answers and slower on the 5th which has a massive time dependent bonus.

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    Di Resanovich

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    Carey Spiezio
    February 18, 2017 07:47
    I accidentally blocked someone. I want to play him again and it says it is too soon to re-engage that user. How long do I have to wait?

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    Di Resanovich
    March 25, 2017 16:48
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    Rana Lawrence Mitchell
    February 17, 2017 01:34
    how do I get back an opponent I deleted in error

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    Di Resanovich
    March 25, 2017 16:42
    I accidentally deleted a player! It says now I can rechallenge them in 6 days! This is absolutely absurd that anyone should be punished for a mistake! I spend a Lot of money here for tickets and power up or coins whatever they are but they are not cheap and you never get any deals, but you get penalized for accidentally deleting an opponent! No way I emailed them and if that's the case I'm deleting the game and i will be done! Geez I am not even that harsh on my kids!!! Thanx, Di

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    Duke Fountain

    how we all liking the prices now?just when you thought ticket and coin prices were high before,how about triple or quadraple in some cases,now nobody can afford anything,i even cancelled my vip membership,way too greedy this company is.

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